Yes & no..they are coating the OEM bearing BUT apparently the bearing is different to the original bearing used! But, using an engine oil beyond the point where its Phosphorus is depleted means the protective layer will wear away. Posts: 2 661 Threads: 174 Likes Received: 612 in 467 posts Likes Given: 312 Joined: Aug 2010 Reputation: 19 #61. Zinc levels are not limited, but Zinc alone is ineffective without Phosphorous to bind to. This sub-reddit is dedicated to everything related to BMW vehicles, tuning, racing, and more. The rod bearing replacement procedure includes fully draining and replacing the engine oil and filter, power steering fluid, and coolant. This design relies on a particular set of properties in the engine oil, allowing it to flow well enough to reliably get between a 1/1000 of an inch gap, but with a high enough viscosity to keep the metals separated. They could do it but said it was a waste of my money, I called Crevier BMW in Santa Ana and talked to a service manager and he said he has never seen the issue. These motors were designed at a time when API SL-compliant oils were the industry standard. So unless you buy from an informed enthusiast, assume they have not been done. © 2020 HG Performance | Powered by smartboost. Pho3niX90 Jansen_Van_Nieuwenhulhu. Connecting rod bearing failure is catastrophic on any engine and will typically leave the vehicle in need of a complete replacement engine. The ZDDP protective layer is a sacrificial barrier, meaning that it is consumed and then replenished as the engine operates. After a short time in the engine, these shear down into the 50-weight range and many of them continue to fall into the 40-weight range long before the engine reaches 15,000 miles. Rod bearing replacement is not the kind of job BMW would typically do on Motorplan. Be the first to know about sales and special events. Ok I guess best I get a quote to do the bearings, Not if you post it on an open forum and let the BMW dealers lurking here read it, (This post was last modified: 20-06-2016, 02:47 PM by, (This post was last modified: 20-06-2016, 07:05 PM by, (This post was last modified: 20-06-2016, 06:44 PM by, (This post was last modified: 21-06-2016, 05:08 PM by, (This post was last modified: 21-06-2016, 06:15 PM by, (This post was last modified: 07-12-2016, 08:21 PM by, http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=892838, /o(O)(O) \ (lllllllll)(lllllllll) / (O)(O)o\, His: 13' F10 M5 | Catless DP's | BM3 ST2 | Ramair Induction, 06' E63 M6 Black | Decatted | Straight piped, 05' E46 FL 330i 6SP Indv Motorsport Scarab Green, CDV Delete, 3.38 Diff, 00' E46 318i 2000 5SP Sahara Metallic Gold. ~ Winston Churchill, When replacing the bearings does the engine have to come out or can it be done from underneath, So with all this ROD BEARING scares and issues I want o know if anyone has a way to find the info of the previous owner so that I can be in contact with him to ask him the relevant questions. We recommend SR-5R 5w-50 for engines with original bearings and SR-5R 10w-60 for owners who have upgraded to extra clearance bearings. It is quite an involved process, and having a shop do it could cost as much as $3000. Please check your entries and try again. Everything You Need to Know About BMW Rod Bearings & Their Maintenance, Factors That Contribute to Premature Bearing Failure, Owners of S54, S65, and S85 BMW engines should change their engine oil every 5,000 miles if they see a lot of high RPM use on the race track and every 10,00 miles at most for cars driven daily. It’s certainly possible to do it yourself, but novices need not apply. But, the problem is much more likely to happen in the S54, S65, and S85 for a few specific reasons. A new s65 is about $25k so the preventative maintenance is worth it in this case. blackstone would be a waste of money to continually do. It's also not really the thing that most owners would do out of plan, Becuase most people are not aware of the risk. Should I replace it before or wait for it to fail? I have 76k miles on my '08 and I read this in an article today Is this really an issue? Consistent BMW maintenance is crucial for a high-performing vehicle. There could be a number of reasons for premature failure with a lot of finger-pointing as to the real cause. I have a shop that does my oil changes and has replaced other parts like the throttle actionators but with the bearings I am worried that it's done right. Joined: Apr 5, 2017 Messages: 117 Likes Received: 0 Trophy Points: 16 Location: Bucks/London What're you driving? If you are looking to keep the car for a while and you have the money, I'd find a good shop who has done this job before and have them replaced. We use rod bearings made out of a softer metal than the crankshaft or the rod so that it breaks down first. My 2008 m3 spun a bearing at 80k a few weeks ago. Rod bearings continue to be a sore subject among M3, M5, and M6 owners. The BMW S54 inline 6, S65 V8, and S85 V10 engines are some of our favorites. The rod bearing replacement procedure includes fully draining and replacing the engine oil and filter, power steering fluid, and coolant. ZDDP was common in engine oils meeting the SL specification but starting in 2005, Phosphorus levels were reduced to extend the life of catalytic converters and O2 sensors. Engine mounts are removed to drop the oil pan so it’s a perfect time to replace worn or … If everything checks out, I’d still budget for a rod bearing replacement in the future, just so you have the procedure finished. Considering DTM mechanics change their rod bearing shells at the end of every race season, doing a rod bearing service as a form of preventative maintenance on a 15 year old plus road car (where there are known failures) is a no brainer. Engine mounts are removed to drop the oil pan so it’s a perfect time to replace worn or leaking mounts without any additional labor cost. The Castrol 10w-60 motor oil originally used in these engines was chosen for its additive package but has had to be reformulated to meet the needs of newer vehicles and their emissions equipment in order to be compliant to API SM and SN standards. With the 2008-2010 it is actually very useful and almost completely necessary. Plus, it’s significantly less expensive than the original Castrol or BMW-branded oil. In the above models, the clearances between the crankshaft journals and bearings are tighter than usual, especially in relation to the high RPMs that these engines are capable of. 20-06-2016, 01:58 PM (20-06-2016, 01:27 PM) 922-ZN Wrote: (18-06-2016, 07:19 AM) a1exander Wrote: People such as VAC etc buy their bearings from BMW and then proceed to treat them with … For drivers who frequent track or autocross events, Torco SR-5R will significantly reduce oil temperatures and provide an even higher level of protection. I am in the process of putting a used engine in mine (23k) and proactively doing a rod bearing kit before I put it in the car. With that peace of mind documented on paper, you’ll always be able to sell the car on for more than any other example with a questionable rod bearing history, so it’s certainly worth the not-inconsiderable cost. What I would do, before buying this or any E90/92/93 M3, would be to ask the dealer to perform a inexpensive Blackstone Labs oil analysis to see if there are any microscopic particulates shearing themselves off over time. Heh, then I'm pretty sure they haven't been done. This will not show up in the blackstone analysis so i would consider that to be a waste of money. Get a monthly update of happenings at the shop. They changed the rod bearings in the 2011 model. The rod bearing doesn’t rest directly on the crank, instead it rides on an extremely thin layer of oil, that allows the crank to rotate freely and with …
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